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. that means, the big deal. this is the moment of opportunity. this is the window that people have been waiting for, for sometime. where both parties can sit down and resolve this problem, once and for all. we know what the problems are. we spend too much. the president will not get serious about cutting spending. >> greta: there's been e-mails back and forth, yesterday money the media that the president got up and marched off and senator harry reid on the floor refers to leader cantor as childish. is that what has deteriorated to a bit of name calling? >> i think the president was frustrated yesterday. everyone of us around the take are frustrated. the president got frustrated and left abruptly. >> greta: appropriately or inappropriately? >> i think it was fine. i think he decided the meeting was over and go up and left. >> greta: was there any indication the meet something over, we'll talk tomorrow or was it just i'm out of here? >> we had already discussed meeting today. the president is frustrated. my goodness, the rest of us are frustrated too. i've been pushing the president all year to a
not be willing or able to, seemingly, take on big tasks. >> that happened all this week. kristin is live at the white house. a lot of talk. we're one day closer to that deadline. what can we expect to hear from the president in the next hour? >> hi there, richard. we expect the president to continue to push to get a big deal. what's a big deal? about $4 trillion in deaf sigz reductions over the next decade. at the end of last week, it looked like he and speaker boehner were moving towards the same page in terms of trying to get a big deal. that fell apart over the weekend. so we expect the president to resume calls for a big deal to say now is the time to seize the moment. there will be political pain on both sides. what he means by that is the democrats will have to come to the table over entitlements, making small changes to things like social security and medicare and the republicans will need to come to the table in terms of rolling back tax break for wealthy corporations and americans. as you said, richard, he's going to hammer this point that they will continue to work until they g
today? >> this wouldn't be the big deal if this is the only day, but this is day after day the spring into the summer. then let's pile on a top of humidity. that gets to the people and aggravates everyone. this is where the center of the heat is. right over the top of the eastern half of the country with the exception not being up in the great lakes. this is already the heat index. what time is it? it's 10:00. we are at 105 already in louisville. areas of memphis, nashville and st. louis are right behind. the worst has been centered over the ohio river valley and southern indiana. later today, this is my forecast heat index. this is how hot i'm predicting it's going to get. the worst is up here with the dew points at the highest. we are thinking 110 in louisville, 110 in nashville. i've got my money on 115 in memphis as the hottest heat index in the country. it goes from oklahoma city to the east coast. this is one of the first humid days we had from new york to deep, deep baltimore, raleigh. you go down the coast with no exceptions. this is historic in oklahoma city. we now had 13 da
been a big hit in london "evita" here had bad reviews. the mood changed. funny enough, i think that's an intriguing one because in the late '70s america was a little bit in denial about talking about anything political. i mean, you remember the time, after vietnam, and i remember writing the early days of the "evita" run we hit the -- at the same time of the russian invasion of afghanistan, which i don't think anybody really completely understood what was going on. for give me for talking about afghanistan. i've gone off on a tangent. >> another time. >> suddenly people started talking about politics again. they said, maybe paralleled with what we were trying to say there was an interesting subject. >> how much have the critics gotten to you over the years? >> i don't really care very much if i don't think the critics really understand music. >> somebody that you respect, what is the most hurtful kind of thing they could say that would really get to you? >> i guess somebody who i did respect as a musician said that the score was humdrum or something, then i would be sad if i believe
>>> good thursday, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news out of texas, where authorities have arrested an army private assigned to fort campbell, kentucky. officials found bomb-making materials in his hotel room. that arrest came after someone reportedly overheard the private threatening to stage an attack on the army post at fort hood. fort hood was the scene of a deadly shooting attack in november 2009. major nadal hassan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. pete williams has the latest from washington now. pete, what do you know about this arrest of the private? >> reporter: right. well, good afternoon. you saw killeen, texas on that map. that's where he was arrested. he's a private first class assigned to fort campbell, but arrested in texas yesterday and according to law enforcement officials, what happened is he went into a gun store in killeen, texas and was asking questions that the gun store owner thought was suspicious. he was also buying smokeless powder which can be used for a variety
the band-aid. eat our peas. >> reporter: of course, taxes remains the big sticking point. the president, though, insisting that nothing would change before 2013 so it would not happen during a difficult economic environment, but house speaker john boehner saying that there's no reason to raise taxes in order to control spending. he believes the best way to get revenue is by improving the overall economy by creating jobs. he says he is willing to get a deal done with democrats and the white house, but, in his words, it takes two to tango and they are not there yet. >> dan lothian at the white house, thanks. >>> the debt crisis overseas sending a chill through wall street this morning. less than half hour before the opening bell, u.s. stocks may be headed for another rough day. ali velshi is joining us live from new york. ali, what does it mean? >> well, you know, first of all, futures seem to be leveling out a little bit, kyra. a couple of things going on here. one as dan was just saying, we just heard from the treasury secretary who is making a speech and he says he is expecting a deal
at this hour? that is the big question that people want the answer to. the lawyers were successful disguising where she went in the overnight hours. even the press not able to keep up with her. cameras shooting this video of casey anthony walking out of the front doors of the orange county jail at 12:11. wearing pink me low shirt, hair in a bun and the primary defense attorney jose baez right by her side. they got in a motorcade, a gray suburban, a cream colored tahoe and white follow-car and drove directly from the location to a bank of of america building in downtown orlando, not far from here, where her other attorney has an office. they went in covered parking garage and pulled a bait and switch. the suv never emerged from the parking garage, but others cars did and it's not clear which one that casey anthony was in. we can tell you around the same time there was police activity across town at a private airport. a private plane was fuelled up and ready to go on the runway, but nobody saw casey anthony boarding the aircraft. officials telling us it was scheduled to carry golfers vacationin
the road so we did not end up in this fiscal mess. >> everyone is going to the movies and a big story in the country right now and it relates to what is going on in the debt battle, the white house versus congress right now, battling, and president and cantor, reminiscent to harry potter and it ends this week. there is president obama versus speaker boehner. >> it would be terrifying if they had magical powers. how scary. >> who would be harry potter? >>dave: we will give you an idea, we compared the two in a roll out of this battle versus harry potter. look at this. >> i've been hearing from my republican friends for some time it is a moral imperative to tackle our debt and deficit in a serious way so i have said to them, let's go. >> we are in a crisis. >> i'm voting "no," on the debt ceiling. >> failing to raise the debt ceiling would be armageddon. >> i will not sign a 30-day or 60-day or 90-day extension. >> this debt limit increase is his problem. >> failure is not an option. >> this could have been avoided. >> you think you can hold the government ransom? >> we will in the supp
, this backup plan could be left as the last option standing. but the big question is always, wolf, will it pass the house? can it pass the house? and this seems to be another example of just how divided the republican party is on this issue. >> yeah, it's a huge, huge division right now. going forward, this debate, we'll see what happens. kate, thanks very much. let's check in with jack right now. he's got the "cafferty file." >> despite that nasty game of chicken going on in washington over raising the debt ceiling. congressional leaders in both parties pretty much agree that doing it is going to be necessary. the argument is over what else goes into the bill that's tying them up and bringing the country dangerously close to defaulting on some of our loans. according to a new poll, 40% do not want the debt ceiling raised and they want their members of congress to vote against any measures that raise it. only 22% want their lawmakers to vote for raising the debt ceiling. and more than 1/3 of americans say they're just not sure. when asked which is a greater concern, 51% say raising the debt cei
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. no we won't. we have money to pay it, pay it take that issue off the take. here's the big issue, the president doesn't want to have to be confronted with priorities in spending. because he has a lot of chutzpah. he spent a trillion on stimulus, it failed. he spent a trillion and a half every year on deficits, they are his. also obamacare trillions of dollars this is his spending. he's gotta own it and deal with it. >> greta: i think the president genuinely wants to make sure people don't get hurt. >> we all do. we all do. >> greta: i don't think he's necessarily playing politics some would say he worries if we take some money out of this program it is going to hurt somebody, they all have costs every time we take has costs. >> my point was, this president has added trillions of dollars. we wouldn't be in this crisis right now if he wouldn't have spent that trillion on stimulus, trillion and a half more than he should have on the budget and trillions more on obamacare. but for those trillions in spending, we wouldn't be in this mess. we would still be in a bad spot, nowhere near
to rein in big government spending and prevent tax increases. >> the majority of the house has to approve spending and that's tremendous leverage. we should use it. >> a political analyst says it has an impact on how far g.o.p. speaker john boehner can go in debt negotiation. >> the existence of the freshmen linked creditability to john boehner when he says there are not enough votes for tax increase. >> reporter: president obama is also feeling the pressure from the left flank saying that social security and medicare may need modification to sustain them for the future generation. >> if there is a reasonable deal to be had on it, one i'm willing to pursue. >> that got a strong pushback from nancy pelosi and other liberals. >> today, the democratic women of congress have come together to send a clear message. we must protect medicare and social security. we will not support cuts. >> reporter: if there are cuts to the program in a final deal, it will be a tough sell to the president with the liberal base, which sees itself as cardigan of the entitlement. molly henneberg, fox news. >> shann
-- none of your business. a big buzz about a gall up poll showing that president obama would be defeated by a generic republican by 8 points and leads any of the spectacular candidates that he is paired against. what does this mean? franklyy absolutely nothing. a poll in this point in time is where they are today and not in 15 months. voters will automatically vote democrat and some automatically vote republican. the election is going to be decided by independent voters in the middle, and they are a long way from making up their mines on the next election. they are struggling whether or not they are having a next paycheck. while i enjoy a good game of politics as much as the next guy, there is a time to campaign and then there is a time to govern. president and members of congress from both parties have had their fun politicing the debt ceiling and now time to govern and resolve it. i don't think the world will face armageddon over failure to set the debt limit. there would be affects. you wouldn't be able to visit the national parks and coon get a passport and airport lines for tsa coul
, you know, her not testifying to all of the things that was promised is big, and the jury is going to want to know why. >> jane velez-mitchell, you have been there covering the trial since the beginning and watching for the last couple of weeks up close and personal. >> well, they can get in something based on a reasonable inference, so i believe that is going to be a source of contention. i believe you will hear a lot of objection from the prosecution tomorrow, because jose baez has a track record of trying to sneak things in with inference, and asking questions that he knows are going to be objected to, and that objection is going to be sustained, and he doesn't care. he does it anyway. but the rules are, again, that you cannot discuss facts not in evidence, so jose baez should not be able to say, little caylee drowned accidentally in the pool, as he did in opening statements, but he might be able to say, we saw evidence that little caylee was capable of getting into that pool herself and cindy testified that she believes that the pool ladder was left in a position that would hav
of stuff coming up with all the excitement coming up and weather going on and now the weather maps. big story the last couple of days has been a nonstory, tropical storm don became nothing, unfortunately. folks in texas hopes to get a big storm out of this and get some rain at least. the storm slowed up and they did not get the rain. across the eastern part of the country, across coastal areas, there was some rain but not too far inland but they will take anything they can get the entire state of texas is dealing with the worst drought they have ever had and now the radar, the eastern part of the country will deal with storms. it is hot. humid. we will see more storms this afternoon. texas unfortunately is not beginning to get much rain. in the northern plains, big storms, and some this afternoon, and they will be severe, keep that in mind, and across the west, we will continue to deal with storms cross the four corners. and now, everyone is excited about the state fair for the food and this year, those are doughnuts and a burger. and bacon. how is that for breakfast? take a bite. >> ri
for contempt of court. go now. >>> you can probably imagine a kentucky woman is in big trouble with the law after she attacks a judge in court. court security officer adam dodson was the first to take her down. i talked with him earlier and asked what did the judge said to make her go ballistic. >> the judge was telling her to stop using foul language and if she kept using foul language in her court then she would be held in contempt and face more charges, and the lady was very upset already and she just basically disregarded anything the judge said and continued to talk. >> you've been doing this for a while now. have you seen anybody react this way especially towards a judge? >> i have seen people react this way but only in training videos, and the training they send us to. not in actually any courtroom i've worked in in the 3 1/2 years i've been there. >> when you grabbed her and you subdued her. what happened? was she remorseful? did you have to take her away? what happened? >> she was not remorseful at all actually. i had to administer the handcuffs on the floor. she was resisting arre
boehner and president obama are still in contact. they are still working towards an agreement. big stumbling block, taxes still in the way, martin. >> i should explain, mike, that you're inside because there's a lot of rain outside the white house today. >> another major storm, that's right. >> absolutely. >> thanks so much. >> well, now that he's walked out of debt talks with vice president biden, taken a fight to president obama and clashed with speaker boehner, is there any compromise that will sit with house majority leader eric cantor? nbc's luke russert is covering that. republicans, what are they willing to sacrifice in order to reach an agreement? got a copy of the "washington post" which liberally quotes you, but have you been able to get an answer to your question yet? >> reporter: no, and they offer two explanations as to why, martin. number one, they say that a concession republicans are making is just in fact allowing the debt ceiling to go up because that's something that's so unpopular within the house republican caucus. the popular sentiment here in washington, d.c.
said is why he called the president saturday and ended their talks on the so-called big deal to cut the debt by $4 trillion over a decade, which he said the two men had been discussing since january. a republican source close to the negotiations says despite the smiles, the meeting is on a smaller deal are producing little progress at this point. speaker boehner was asked what happens if there is no deal and the nation defaults on august 2, he said nobody knows, it's a crap shoot. >> thank you very much. senior business correspondent anthony mason is here now. let's go back to the news from moody's. what exactly does that mean? >> moody threatened to do this last month. today the rating agency cited its concerns that the debt limit will not be raised on a timely basis, leading to a default on a u.s. treasury obligation. moody's words, the risk of a short-lived default was small but rising. standard and poors put u.s. credit on negative outlook back in april citing the same concerns. this is basically another warning shot, russ, telling congress they're running out of time. >> how so
>>> tonight on "world news," big broil. the record heat, 90 million people sweltering. parts of texas turning back into a dust bowl. not enough water for the cattle. >>> double dare. with the economy on the brink over the debt talk, the president warns social security checks could be in jeopardy, as republicans claim they now have a last ditch plan. >>> jay see dugard. tonight, neighbors who saw the backyard where she was being held, speak out about what they wish they had done. >>> and, our made in america summer. an army of families showing you the one thing they bought and love to help create american jobs. >>> good evening to you. and here is how it looks and feels in temperatures as high as 105 degrees in america tonight. 90 million americans sweltering. record-breaking heat across the country. and look at that. temperatures soaring above 100 degrees, and there is drought so bad, cattle farmers are making very tough choices. that is the map. half of the country in the sweltering heat tonight, and abc's steve osunsami is in atlanta to report for us. >> reporter: across no
problem. >> i could go on and on. tom says the fault lies with the system that allows big money, party loyalty and special interests to decide who gets elected. how we started moving down this path. >> very thoughtful responses from all of you. thank you very much. that's it for us. we'll be back tomorrow morning at 6:00 am eastern. >> cnn newsroom with kyra phillips starts right now. hi, kyra. >> hi, guys. good morning. >>> two breaking news stories this morning. first of all, the nfl, it looks like, they might have come together on a deal here. nfl.com is reporting that the players and the owners have agreed on something that will end the lockout. we're following it right now. we're just getting the information in. that means that the players vote will happen later today in more of a formal setting. training camp could start as early as wednesday now, we've been told. david mattingly has been following this for us. he has been live out of atlanta every day, at least he was last week when those negotiations were taking place. david, did you just get word that something came forward ju
. however there is disagreement over that point, big disagreement over that point. >> the other thing we'll be looking at is of course whether or not there will be issue with the credit rating. we'll talk about that. rebecca thanks. chris? >> thank you. >>> there is news of another arrest in the widening phone hacking scandal in britain. rupert murdoch is being pressured to appear before lawmakers in london and washington. dana lewis is in london good morning. >> reporter: good morning, we're hearing a ninth person has been arrested in the phone hacking scandal, the former executive editor of the "news of the world," but the late breaking news here this morning is the british government committee has just issued a summons for rupert and james murdoch to appear before them to answer questions about what they knew in the phone hacking scandal but legally there is a serious question over whether they can be compelled to appear. damage control in high gear rupert murdoch and son james in london trying to find a way to put out the fire. news corp shut out "nut of the
36 hours will be crucial to decide if a big deal can win support from congress. >> everybody around the table agreed that there is not an option of allowing the debt limit not to be extended so that america does not default on its debt. >> what we have here is a lack of leadership from the white house on what we know is mathematically is necessary to fix this problem. >> we've look the at all available options and we have no way to give congress more time to solve this problem and we're running out of time. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. is there still hope for a deal? >> reporter: in many ways, it is. good morning to you, chris. president obama told congressional leaders it's decision time. he said we're going to take the day off for a meeting on friday, go back to your caucuses and then come back to me. talks right now are stalled, they've been dealing with the same issues. president obama saying he wants a large deficit reduction package, he says he'll come to the table over entitlement reform if republicans will come to the table for rolling back tax credits
, on a big news day. we welcome you to america's news headquarters and lawmakers are racing against the clock, to finalize the possible deal before a scheduled vote on a democratic senate plan in three hours, and house speaker john boehner says he's hopeful and lawmakers will craft a package that can earn bipartisan support. >> i'm not going to put any deadlines but i think it is clear, should be clear to all of you, that senator mcconnell and i believe that we are going to be able to come to some agreement to end the crisis, as soon as possible. thanks. >> peter doocy live from washington with more, and what do you know about the phones deal. >> reporter: a senior republican leadership source told us what is in the framework of the tentative deal between republicans and the white house and it likes lot like the original boehner plan, but, with the timeline the president wanted. it would take us through 2013 and here's specific, a $3 trillion plan, that would raise the debt ceiling between 2.1 and $2.4 trillion. and cut a trillion dollars in spending right now, and, put together a special com
>>> welcome back. i'montessa brewer back in the saddle covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news. the judge in the roger clemens perjury trial has just declared a mistrial. nbc's pete williams is in washington, d.c. what's the judge saying about this trial, pete? >> reporter: well, the judge has said he'll decide at a hearing on september 2nd, almost two months from now, where we go from here. this trial had just started yesterday with opening statements from both sides and the prosecutors had begun calling witnesses, but the judge had told the prosecutors in advance that certain evidence was off-limits and one of the things that was off-limits was related to testimony by a friend and former teammate of roger clemens named andy pettitte who had played with him on two major league teams. andy pettitte has said that roger clemens told him he used human growth hormone. clemens says that pettitte is mistaken. what's at issue here is a legal document, sort of sworn statement by the wife of andy pettitte, who says yeah, i heard my husband tell me that roger tol
have a very big advantage, because marcus has his ph.d. in counseling and he's a marriage counselor. >> reporter: but dr. bachmann's brand of counseling is highly controversial and could become a campaign issue. >> here's my husband dr. marcus bachmann. >> reporter: operating oututf suburban minneapolis, dr. bachmann runs a christian coununseling firm, co-owned wit his wife, that at times, according to former patients, has tried to convert gay men into heterosexuals through prayer. >> his path for my therapy would be to read the bible, pray to god that i would no longer be gay. >> reporter: andrew ramirez of minneapolis was 17 when his family sent him to bachmann and associates where he says a counselor working for bachmann, tried unsuccessfully to "save" him from his sin. were straight.ld forgive me if i >> reporter: dr. bachmann, who has described homosexuals as barbarians, denied as a false statement five years ago reports his clinic tries to convert g g men to straight. but undercover video shot just last month inside the clinic by a gay advocacy group seems to show some form of
. >> it's a full contact sport on skates but instead of canada, think texas. roller derby is making a big comeback, and in many ways, it's the best of both words. all the fast action and body checking thrills of hockey, but it's still under ground, edgy enough that athletes get to pick up cool nicknames like bloody mary and baby face assassin. here's abc's ryan owens. ♪ >> reporter: if these women look like hell on wheels -- they are. you're in austin, texas, the capital of the lone star state and the cradle of modern day rollerer derby civilization. yes, ready or not, roller derby is back. and it's all grown up. >> let them hear you if you love it, ladies and gentlemen! ♪ >> reporter: meet margaret fackler. by day, a mild mannered math and science teacher. so beloved by her students, she was voted teacher of the year. >> okay, we'll do it. >> reporter: a wife and mother of two. >> i don't like anything else. >> reporter: but by night -- >> fast, faster, go, go, go! >> i like knocking people down. >> reportete she is olivia shootin' john of the hot rod honeys so, how did this young mo
party on capitol hill and would create potentially a big problem. >> jamie: i believe it hasn't happened since the civil war and it really would be monumental if he did go that way and you talk about what the president needs to understand, and what do you think our viewers need to understand, at this stage? >> well, you know, i could tell you a lot about that but i would tell the viewers, it is not just about mathematics and coming up with a balanced budget oration the debt ceiling or anything like that. this is really about the philosophical divide of the members that they have sent to washington. republicans for instance, are looking at this, as not just a way to come up with a palatable plan to raise the debt ceiling but a way to shrink the size and scope of government, which they feel went way out of bounds during the first couple years of obama's tenure and for democrats it is the same, in that as much as they understand that you cannot continue to overspend and the deficits are bad, they are trying to do everything they can to maintain a level of government we have now. and, protec
. >> but one big difference. the jury in the susan smith trial found her guilty and sentenced her to life in prison. joining me is the prosecutor from the trial tommy pope. he is now a member of the south carolina house of representatives. thank you for joining me today. i want a reaction to what the professor celebrate. it was poignant as a defense attorney he did not celebrate even when he got an acquittal. >> as a prosecutor and attorney you are human and by the same token we deal in tragedy and would i disappointed on the case and didn't turn out absolutely. would i be excite federal it did turn out. it is really about justice. there is a life lost in the case and the media coverage saying and we are numb to it. about really no body understands about seeking death and what that means. we get comfortable with it, but the truth is, we are deal lives and serious situations. >> in the case was susan smith you sought the death penalty and she got life without paroll. >> life with parole. >>im sorry, she has a potential of parole. >> about 10 more years and we'll see. >> do women get a diff
, hi. >> greta: hi. tomorrow night is the big night on lifetime. i know you have been twitting about the casey anthony verdict. you don't like the verdict? >> no. but i want on the jury and i didn't see what they saw so i've just moved on. >> greta: it captivated a lot of people from coast-to-coast, why do you think that is? >> it has every element. everything dysfunctional that you could think of. under one banner. >> greta: rose hand's nuts. it is about your macadamia farm in hawaii. -- roseanne's nuts. it is about your macadamia farm in hawaii. a reality show isv5/Ñ so differt than a sitcom isn't it? >> yeah. it is a lot more relaxed. a little bit more fun. cause you can improve a lot. but they both have funny jokes. so even though it is unscripted it is kind of scripted too the reality show. >> greta: i would think it would be harder because it is such an invasion of your privacy. question are -- we are going into your home. >> you are sort of coming in my home. i have a nice home and i want people to see it. i like farming and all this good stuff. i think it is important now. t
, the immigrant was able to tell about the big powerful man and get him in trouble. it seemed appropriate. now, it's going to turn on her. goliath is going to turn on david. >> what do you think is going to happen in the courtroom? do you think the judge will revoke bail? allow dominique strauss-kahn to leave the country? >> they will decide on terms to release bail. the $5 million bail will be lifted. his passport will be retained. he'll be able to move around the united states, not the country. it's a question of time before the charges are dropped. i think she's going to face perjury. >> let's remember, jonathan pointed this out, according to prosecutors, there's dna evidence in the case that, in fact, there was sexual contact. will this be an acknowledgement it was consensual? >> no one will ever know. if she's a liar about something, she's got to be discredited about everything. maybe it was consensual. who knows, but it's no longer a prosecutable case. you cannot keep going in court with it. it's got to be dropped. we'll never know. >> stay there. we want to talk about what's been a riveting
. i think it's also important to take note that one of the big issues that the white house has had with the house republican plan and what's really been seen as an area that needed to be negotiated and really could be the thing that could lead to a break-through on a deal is this idea of if you're going to have a two-part increase in the debt ceiling that would take the debt ceiling through the next election, november 2012, it was really how you tied that second increase in the debt ceiling after several months. the whouts senate democrats didn't like the way house republicans were doing it. they felt like it would have led to some sort of chaotic situation like we've seen with all of this back and forth over increasing the debt ceiling. they would have seen that again somewhere around the new year and didn't want to do that. they're looking at really that sort of seam, if you will, in the contempt of of this framework to maybe work it out in a way that is more amenable to the white house and to democrats. >> brianna keilar at the white house live for us tonight. cnn is dedicated t
are too high driving companies to -- there are lots of thing. >> i get that. >> to have this big debate in public before there's a crisis. in greece you know, usausterity debates come after. now before the crisis hits, you're saying it's not eminent and have it again in the election year is good. >> we're not addressing our problems. this is the point. do you believe actually that cutting at this time is going to create jobs? i mean, that's the crisis. there is, in fact, a crisis that's going on right now. >> taxes at this point -- >> there are people across this country without work. peel under incredible economic stress right now. that's the crisis. there is a crisis. >> lowering tax rates at this time will create jobbed. >> right now there's a -- just if we could introduce the fact here, right now the federal tax take is at 15% gdp. that is incredibly -- hang on. hang on. so that is incredibly low. it's incredibly low by global standards. >> yeah. >> industrialized countries, incredibly low by u.s. historical standards. >> 6070 years. >> to have an argument in which the core premise
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